Ep 71- What is Dinnerland?

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Justin: [00:00:00] I completely forgot how I started the show. Welcome back friend. Welcome back new

Autumn: friends. Well, welcome back. Um, welcome and welcome new friends. Welcome

Justin: back, and welcome new friends to the Easy Diz podcast.

Autumn: No, no. Welcome in. Um, welcome.

Justin: Unspoken welcome

Autumn: and welcome back new friends. Is what it

Justin: is. Well, why would you welcome new friends back? That doesn’t make any sense?

Autumn: It’s welcome. And welcome new friends. Welcome and welcome new friends. Welcome and welcome new friends to the Easy Diz of podcasts.

Justin: Welcome back and welcome new friends to the Easy Diz It podcast. A podcast all about. You cut that out. Oh, we don’t say that anymore. No, you

Autumn: go right into that.

Justin: Welcome back and welcome new friends to the Easy Diz It podcast. A podcast about Disney travel planning. I’m Justin, a Disney. Hyper nerd and typer and our travel

Autumn: planet travel planning. On him, a mild Disney and easiest.

Justin: [00:01:00] And we are here to talk about staying happy and healthy and the parks. Sure sure. Let’s do it. So it’s obviously been a little bit on them. May 1st was our last published podcast.

Autumn: That’s wild. So those of you that are. New. We moved and we had a heck of a moving process. Bye. Well, that’s part of that, but our old friends will have known that. That’s why I moved to a

Justin: new place, threw us

Autumn: off. Right. We’re not comfortable. We’re settled. Justin doesn’t want to divorce me anymore. He loves his new kitchen. That’s interesting. You say

Justin: that let’s go back.

Cause I have my lawyer on the line. No, I think that’s funny. You say that because our last episode we recorded us fighting about. Vacation. So like our relatives, but you know, my brother, Josh is like, guys, was that a joke what’s going on here? ’cause we kind of gotten like the whole point was that, you know, we have a hard time planning vacations together. And so we recorded ourselves having a hard time playing vacation together, and that was our last podcast. So people were like, wait a second, [00:02:00] did that? And it were there. Not able to resolve their differences. Update on that we were not able to resolve.

But we are still together. We worked through it. Yep. Yeah, so, all right, autumn. So I think, and we did record an episode two. We did so.

Autumn: We were quick and we even had plans for the next. I think yes. And again, I think between just some life stuff that came up and then we recorded a beautiful episode and then it got lost. We just like. Getting into the rhythm of things. And then we got into summer schedules. So, but here we are. And I think. We are like comfortably settled in our home. And I think we can get back to our regular scheduled

Justin: program. So what we’re going to do is we’re going to, and. And I would say another thing if you’ve been following our Instagram at all, or Tik TOK. Is Oh, well, blanking. Either land. Yeah. I can’t remember anything today. Gender land has been all encompassing Dinnerland has [00:03:00] really taken up a lot of my head space between, and I’m still, I still have travel clients. So I’m still in Disney travel client wise. And. Flex his

Autumn: full-time job. Yeah.

Justin: Partially in the summer. Yeah, partially. I still worked in the summer. So while I do love all you out there and podcast world, I love our audience. I love the feedback we get. You don’t pay the bills.

So I had to prioritize some of that and Dinnerland I really was. And we’ll talk more about that. What Dinnerland is, if you don’t already know what Dinnerland is, but yeah, so Dinnerland is over. We’re planning for future Dinnerlands for sure. But I really want to get back into the podcast. To, to you know, to have the fun that we have on a weekly basis. Yeah. Or bi-weekly basis. Yeah, yeah,

Autumn: yeah,

Justin: absolutely. So one of the first things that we talked about on our last podcast, I think we saw the little mermaid. We saw the little mermaid and you had some things

Autumn: to say about the little mermaid. And I’m going to go because we got Dinnerland and some new things, but I want to kind of, we wanted to touch base on some of the things we didn’t get to. Yes. So we saw [00:04:00] a little mermaid. I will start with my general impressions and then Justin can share his. I loved it. It was a beautiful movie. It was hands down the best. Live action. You make, but, but aside from that, because I know Justin’s response to that will be, well, that’s a low bar because most of them haven’t been so good. Yeah. But I mean, but I mean, I’ve that even like still, like let’s not compare it to live actions. It was an excellent movie. And I would even say, I think there were segments of the movie. And some of you might hate me for saying this, that I think we’re even better than the original movie in particular. Melissa McCarthy as Ursula was phenomenal at watching that. In the theater. There are so many moments. I just, I like got goosebumps from the goodness and it was like, wow, I didn’t think you could be better. But I think like you, wow. You know, I was wowed. One of the other things that had come up. A lot around the movie and we talk about. We apply like some real world things, you know? Cause we talk about happiness and [00:05:00] healthiness and mindfulness and that jazz. Was this idea of the little mermaid. Being a, a colorblind cast and one of the things. She had with Justin. Is it, that gives me a little bit, you

Justin: overheard that. I’ll leave that a little bit, a lot, a bit. We went to a, like a dinner. Work function. And you overheard that. Right. Yes.

Autumn: From someone that works in film. And I had a bone to pick with this person and other people. I threw a bone at them. A little chicken wings. Very hard. And yeah, it’s basically just that. I understand why people want to use that term, that it’s like, we’re not, we’re, we’re moving away from casting, like a stereotypical Caucasian body, you know, with a certain body type. But the casting in this movie and many other movies that are colorblind aren’t colorblind is actually all it’s. Very intentional, right? Who the characters are, what they look like what the impressions of [00:06:00] them are, how they move throughout this. Like all of that is, is actually pretty intentional. So that’s just the thought I had to share about little mermaid in the last one. And

Justin: related. Now we go back to that. Why is that important? Like why. Like you’re. So you’re telling me Hamilton, it’s not accident. Mostly nonwhite. Yes. Why is that? Why is it being purposeful important? Why can’t it just be like, because we need to speak to whoever.

Correct.

Autumn: Yeah. Because we want to be consciously thinking about people’s ethnicity say, because that’s what we’re largely talking about in both of these movies. Because that is also a part of the story, understanding like that person’s perspective, understanding even sometimes the irony, which is like a lot of Hamilton, right?

Yeah. Of what someone’s current ethnic trait looks like playing somebody that’s very opposite of them. That that’s all intentional and that all helps us understand who we are. So, if we just say that we’re not paying attention to it, then we’re not paying attention to a lot of the things that make that person, that [00:07:00] person right. You know, and so

Justin: yeah, so like race is a dimension that we can pay attention to. Yes. And it doesn’t always have to be like a negative representation of that. Right. Also that yes.

Autumn: It’s important because it lets us that that is a part of who people are and that can inform. The way they do things the way they interpret things, the way that they act the way, you know, all of that,

Justin: there was one guy and he did get a bit of flack for it, but he was a little bit butt hurt that they represented in this movie, white people and black people together. Then that was fine. And because he said, you know, in this period that wouldn’t have occurred and like I’m in a Caribbean island, you know, where there was tons of slavery in these Caribbean islands.

Right. And I think we both on the last episode we were both like, okay, but there’s also mermaids. This is a fantasy. Right.

Autumn: And that’s why I was like, okay. Yeah. So if this was like factual,

Justin: Absolutely. [00:08:00]

Autumn: It would bother Justin. This is an accurate. Yeah, but. Fantasy. And I appreciate you bringing that up because that goes into my very last point. That also is about race and ethnicity. Is that there’s been such a lack. Yes. I don’t think about the little mermaid is fantasy, but it is fantasy. This is a field fantastical. Is it the word? Sure. Fantastic story. And how great is it to have people of color is the main character in fantasy. Statistically such under-representation yeah. Yeah. So anyone who who’s that pick up a book and read some statistics and be happy about it. That’s all I have to say. What do you have to say about a little mermaid, Justin? All

Justin: right. Well, you uh, not a ton. Okay. I think the movie was fine. I like the original cartoon when I was a kid. Cause I was a kid. And my biggest thing with, you know, Disney animated movies really is like visual gags. I love jokes. And I think the little mermaid had tons of the cartoon had tons of visual [00:09:00] gags. I think that’s harder to do in live action. Even like, if you think of lion king, like Timonium, Poom, but there were a lot of visual gags. It couldn’t really pull it off with a live action. And this, my favorite, one of my favorite scenes is the under the sea. Deal. And I think they did a beautiful job with what they could do, right. In terms of like keeping the, the under sea wildlife realistic, but still being exciting. Absolutely beautiful. Very fun to watch, but there wasn’t Blowfish blue, you know, there wasn’t like the gags. The

Autumn: jokes. They had to change the way the gags looks. I wouldn’t say there wasn’t gags. So. Some of the live action remakes. They like took it. There was nothing. Yeah. They like move their bodies. Like the starfish like popped out during. There was. It was a

Justin: pub. It wasn’t like a guy. It wasn’t a Blowfish with a saxophone. My point.

And then I guess so like, so, but really no major complaints except for one. And one major complaint [00:10:00] and the word you used early on in describing this movie was beautiful. And I think this. To large extent, this is correct with one glaring exception. So my best little buddy, when I was a kid was flounder. I had a flounder math toy. He was cute. He was my cute little yellow buddy. My little fish friend best pal. I just wanted to hug them. Squeezes, cute little cheeks. The flounder in this movie is a travesty to them. He looks, he looks like something you’d see, like dead in an Asian market. Like head on dead fish eyes staring at me. Yeah. Mocking my memory of flounder. I will not have it. This movie needs to be adjusted with a cuter flounder. When they, if they do any kind of I mean, it’s probably already out on Disney plus. Right. And they’re not going to do this. They need to fix this. Maybe the 10th anniversary edition. They make flounder cute. Yeah.

Autumn: And I will say, I agree. He was it just like, [00:11:00] dullish like, we’re the even the other live action. This is a dead fish. Characters didn’t look that with Sebastian didn’t look that, you know what I

Justin: mean? It was pretty good. Yeah, I think he had like eyes, a little mustache thing

Autumn: going through. I think that’s what I was impressed with. Like, I think where they nailed it with this one where they really failed with the other live actions, as they brought a mix of like, yes, this looks much more realistic, but like Sebastian very much still had like those kinds of cartoonish eyes and it didn’t live on like, oh, what am I looking at?

It wasn’t just like straight, real crab. Yeah. He did a nice blend. I

Justin: thought. I don’t think he was a real flounder, which I think is fine because I think flounder’s ugly fish.

Easy Diz Bot: Accurate Justin. Flounder was not portrayed as an actual flounder in the Little Mermaid live action remake. Flounders have both eyes on one side of their bodies, and most humans interpret them as odd, or ugly looking. Instead, the new flounder is represented by a species of damselfish known as Sargent Major.

They are named as [00:12:00] such due to the unique striping pattern found on their bodies.

Justin: Clownfish are pretty cute. You can’t do a clown fish cause a Nimo, but there’s gotta be a cuter fish

out there. So I’m

Justin: starting a campaign, just like the Sonic, when they’re ugly, Sonic, they got rid of ugly Sonic. We need to get rid of ugly flounder. And I know it’s maybe a little late, but we need to do something about this. So if you’re interested in campaigning to get re what are we gonna call this and ugly flounder. Hashtag and ugly. Yeah. Email Easy, Diz It, podcast, gmail.com. We’re going to get this movement going. We’re going to fix. What’s been what wrong has been done. To my childhood memories.

And that’s all I have to say about little mermaid.

Autumn: So that’s every capital Mormon. And we’d love to hear your thoughts, whether you agree or disagree with any of the things that we shared.

Justin: Unless you disagree with me. No, no, no. I just won’t disagreement. Because. I don’t need that in this movement. Okay. The end ugly flounder movement. We [00:13:00] don’t need that kind of negativity. Alright.

Done. All right. So the other movie that we saw haunted mansion, Yeah. Yeah. And this one you want me to, you’re looking at me. You want me to talk about this? I’ll

Autumn: let you talk about it.

Justin: Let me, let me start it off. Yeah, because I think the biggest thing for me going into this was I caught like a couple of these reviews, you know, like, oh, it’s doing. Critics really hated this movie. And I was a little bummed because I’m like, oh God, Eddie Murphy movie all over again. So

Autumn: for those of you that don’t know, this was a remake, there was an original with Eddie Murphy done in the late nineties.

Justin: I don’t mean to correct you, but it’s not a, really a remake because they didn’t remake the story. This is. News story in a different universe. Yeah, different. What would you call

Autumn: this? This is just imagining then is

Justin: with Disney. I would say it’s just a new haunted mansion movie. Another new take. Oh, yeah. I don’t even think it’s really a reboot. I think it’s just like, it’s a different story. Yeah, different story altogether. And so these reviews that I was reading were like, and I didn’t read the reviews. I just looked at the [00:14:00] headlines because I didn’t want any spoilers. It’s just like critics say this movie. Isn’t good. I’m like, Aw, man.

Autumn: But we still went. I was too. Because I love haunted mansion. Did you see some of the reviews? We had Justin CV original. He hadn’t seen it until I had you see it. Do you remember that?

Justin: Is that true?

Autumn: Eddie Murphy hundred magic.

Justin: I did see it. I think I did see it. And I was just like, I had. Very low opinion of it. Maybe you didn’t remember anything. I still have a very low opinion of it, but it’s evolved. It’s great for what it is. Yes. Yeah, I’ll say that. I’ll take that to my, my aunt,

Autumn: the movie did, it was great at it.

Justin: The original Eddie Murphy movie was a very silly, silly, stupid Halloween movie. Yeah. Yeah. And that’s it. Like a lot of

Autumn: other classics.

Justin: Yeah, sorry. Hard to measure 2023. Yeah. So we went to go see the movie. Yeah. Autumn. I loved this movie. Really

Autumn: loved the way I like knew I liked it a lot too. I would still say, I think you might’ve loved it above me, but I thought it was very, very good.

Justin: The whole movie I kept turning to her. I’m [00:15:00] like, did you, did you see that? Did you there’s so many Easter eggs in this movie. I feel like they made this movie just for me. And that’s why everyone hates it. Correct? Because this movie is for me specifically.

Autumn: And later, if I may add, when we looked at reviews, Everyone. That was like a Disney nerd and it was apparent by their level of. I love this movie. So this movie was really made for Disney. Fans. I think so. And like, And Disney’s haunted mansion vans, for sure. Specifically the ride, not necessarily the former movie, but the ride.

Justin: Yeah, no, I don’t think this was like a love letter to the 2003. Eddie Murphy.

Autumn: No apparently. I’ll let you talk about that. What. What. The Easter egg that we didn’t see it,

Justin: but it wasn’t real. If someone made that up, we were so. We got home. Right. And we’re like, I was like, this is the best movie ever. So we started reading through all these Google reviews and you read a Google review saying that Eddie Murphy.

Autumn: And if someone who knew. But this person was like just in level Disney knowledge.

Justin: So you read a review that said that Eddie Murphy had a cameo in the [00:16:00] movie. As a ghost. Yes. And we’re like, whoa, we missed that. But then I Googled it and I was like, that didn’t happen. I wasn’t sure. Yeah, it did not happen. He was not in that movie. He went on. They did an interview and Eddie’s like, no, I’m not going to be in that movie. Oh, yeah. So that never happened.

Autumn: I was really cause I’d loved it in. And at the end, before we left, I said the only thing that this movie was missing was just some kind of like callback, some kind of callbacks. And then it would be, then it would be, you know what I mean? Just for like the sake of

Justin: it. You. You know, no, it would’ve been cool if he was a ghost or, you know, but, so anyway, why did I love this movie? I think the amount of Easter eggs were great, but what really, what made this movie awesome to me is it took elements of the ride and made them integral to the plot in the movie in a really smart way.

So it wasn’t just like, oh, here’s the suit of armor, you know, that’s fun. Just in the movie. Yeah. But things like the hitchhiking ghost following you home, that was an integral plot point. The movie [00:17:00] would not have worked without hitchhiking ghosts. Yeah. And there are just things like that. You know, and I think like, were there other things that were just kind of thrown in there that were cool? Like the dune buggies were portrayed in a really interesting way. Yes. The stretching room was awesome. There’s there’s just so much there. And then on top of all that, it was just like a really interesting. Storyline with the hatbox ghost, being a villain. I think he was an excellent villain for this.

Autumn: Really, and it was a really cool story. And it also was like, we had the opposite of the. The first one, I’ll say. That it was more serious and therefore, a little bit more spooky. You know, there were some jump scares, nothing. No horror like, but just really thrilling. Like you’re like, oh yeah. Well, and that I wasn’t anticipating. Either based on the first one.

Justin: Yeah. And I don’t like movies like that, but this like toed the line of like, yeah, like I wouldn’t want it to be any more jumps. Scarier. There were like three, maybe three jumps scares.[00:18:00] The haunted mansion, the Muppet’s haunted mansion had this jump scare that got me

yeah. Yeah, there were a few of them like that that were pretty creepy, but I, I was fine with it. I thought it was good. I wouldn’t bring like a little kid to the movie. That might have nightmares or anything like that. Because even when there aren’t jump scares it, the themes are. Very spooky and sometimes dark.

Autumn: Right, right. But, and it’s heavy, I think to appreciate the movie. Your abstract thinking needs to be a little, just because of the level of the motifs, if you will. That. Through the movie you. I’m going to get it. Like 10 or 12. I can take you if you’re younger

Justin: than 10 or 12. Child suicide motif at the end. Like that kid almost killed himself. Yes. True. So that was kind of dark, you know we have.

Autumn: Again, this is all alluded. This isn’t like all young child would see that and not know that. There wasn’t like,

Justin: right, right. Going to

was this PG 13, 13.

Autumn: Yeah, PG 13. That sounds accurate.

Justin: Yeah. And I [00:19:00] guess the only other thing I wanted to say about it is just if you, if you follow haunted mansion and, movie-making and, and stuff like that, you would know like over the last decade, there’s been a lot of, there were, I should say a lot of rumors and, and, but like, and reporting like verified reporting. That Guillermo Del Toro was working out a haunted mansion movie and that he was going, his movie was going to feature the hatbox ghost as a villain because he was obsessed with the hatbox ghost. It’s a very interesting. Character. And, and that, that movie was going to be very dark and creepy. And I just feel like, I don’t know. I feel like Justin Simeon made Guillermo Del Toro’s movie. And I just want to know more about that. Like, Was Justin Simeon on the phone with Guillermo Del Toro, because I feel like it

Autumn: might be besties. It Simeon did an excellent job.

Justin: He did. It was, it was an awesome movie. I think

Autumn: I could see that maybe not, but I could see where they’re on a similar plane when it comes to texts.

Justin: And even if it was, and I’m not trying to say like, Guillermo del Torro, like you should get credit for this [00:20:00] movie, but I’m just thinking, he, it wasn’t like Guillermo del Torro. It was like, oh, I’ll do that. That’ll be fun. He tried really hard to get this movie made. And from what I understand, he has like a low key obsession with the haunted mansion. And he has like haunted mansion wallpaper and his house and stuff like that.

Yeah. If he knows another director is going to make this movie, would he not like get on the phone? And if you are another good director and you know that another fantastic director is like wanting to make this movie. I do not get on the. Yeah. So I feel like there had to be like maybe Guillermo. Got a bit of his movie made. Maybe the

Autumn: credits in any

Justin: way he might’ve been. I should do some more Googling. But I would Google it. Yeah. The days after I did Google and nothing was popping up for Guillermo Del Toro in this movie. But. Yeah. I mean, like, I’m sure Justin Simeon’s has seen his movies too. And, and I mean, I wouldn’t say that this is a Guillermo Del Toro movie. It’s just the fact that those plot points were. We’re kind of like shared. I don’t know. Good ideas, you know, stick around.[00:21:00]

Easy Diz Bot: On this Justin, I’m afraid you are likely incorrect. In a July interview with The Direct, Justin Simeon indicated Guillermo del Toro had no role formal or otherwise in the movie, quote, You know, I never got a chance to really interact with Guillermo’s version of the movie. By the time it came to me, Katie Dippold had written a brilliant sort of adaptation Wayne, and I have absolutely no idea how that development process occurred.

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Autumn: They do and like, Hey, great minds. Think alike. That’s the reason I’m the only one that would have some similar thoughts. I think Simeon. I don’t know. Deltoro as much, but he is a great way of bringing.

Making real thing, like, I guess, thrill or making a connection between like real life things. Yes. Fantasy awful things. Yeah.

Justin: And I think that was a good, another good thing that made this just a good [00:22:00] movie in general. Was that like, where are the haunted mansion? 2003. It was like a cartoon basically. Yeah. Yeah, this movie, this Haunted Mansion had its basis in reality. And real life and real trauma and stuff like that. It was, I don’t know.

Autumn: Yeah, no, you’re right. That was the root of, and that was interested

Justin: in Danny DeVito. Come on. Oh. He was gay. He was.

Autumn: Danny DeVito. Just say that I did negative thing that I would agree with was. Who played? Madame Liotta I’m forgetting her name. Oh

Justin: yeah. Not Glenn close. I always want to call her Glenn close the scream queen from the old Halloween movies. Jamie Lee Curtis.

Autumn: Is awesome, but I do feel like her, the character. And she’s tremendous. I do feel like it’s just the character. Well flat. It was all flat. Like compared to even the first one. Like, I think there was a little more like jazz and that yeah. Oh yeah. It was kind of like, oh, is it.

Justin: And I would say if this, this movie has an, has a weakness, it’s some of the acting, even from like the good actors, I think it kind of [00:23:00] fell prey to what happens when actors have to. Act two, nothing like when Jamie Lee Curtis was doing that, she was probably in a room by herself. Correct. There is a couple scenes or like the reactions weren’t quite like accurate, especially the ending scene. I think this happens a lot in special effects movies. I don’t disagree. And some of the critics pants on that too, you know, and I don’t, I think it’s not the best acting from every actor in there. You know, but I thought the movie overall was frigging accent, like 8.9 out of 10, maybe 9.3. And I’m 9.3 for me out of 10. Yeah. Where would you put this?

Autumn: I I’m curious to see, to check the reviews and see if any of the ratings hi. It had gone up. We saw it. Within the 24 hours it came out. Yeah. Yeah, I put this. I’m gonna give it like it’s a more between an eight and a half and a nine. Fair enough. I would put a 15 and a half a day. I will also say what’s her name? Rosario. Dawson, who plays. I don’t want to save it, but kind of the family that [00:24:00] first comes to this haunted mansion and figures out. Wow. The mine. It’s interesting because that actress also plays in Marvel, which is a part of Disney. And when I pointed out to Justin, I don’t know if he realized it, what she says her reality is her reality is the same character that she plays in. Marvel’s. It was really interesting, like they’re bullying. I had to be purposeful

Justin: emergency room nurses. Is that

Autumn: she’s a nurse at the same hospital. She is in which he entered in a cage. Yes. Okay, Daredevil, but like, why would you purposely, it was just interesting that, that they didn’t change. Yeah, that was. And I’m just curious, I’m curious to see, is that, was that done? Is there going to be some kind of connection or something? It’s interesting that it’s like, she’s a nurse. Well, it’s just the Marvels

Justin: you see that? Yeah, it might just be an Easter egg. I don’t want to just be an Easter egg for dinner. That’s for you. And just for me, just for you.

Autumn: But I love that. There are a lot of other hidden [00:25:00] gems and I love his, it was an awful, but just as I think, just an IB in the mental and behavioral health field. I think we love the realistic kind of background of pain. If you don’t love people being in pain, but I think we appreciate like that and how that can translate to. Looking at translate to what

Justin: am I saying? That’s like your

Autumn: real life horror right there. And also, and also though at the end, what you see is like this beautiful transformation and growth

Justin: to yep. Through that. The pain. Yep. Yep. Accepting it and just, yeah. Accepting it really. Yeah. I thought that they, they handled that really well. So, yeah, overall though, we just talked a lot about that. Yeah, it’s a good movie. I’m going to, I’m going to watch it

Autumn: again. Maybe we do like a show party. What’s that club like?

Justin: Watch watch along, watch along. Yeah, that’d be fun. If it comes out on Disney, plus when it comes out on Disney plus a watch on. Yeah. If you, if you’d be interested in a haunted mansion, watch along, shoot us an email at easydizitpodcast@gmail.com. Thanks. All right, we’re going to take a [00:26:00] break. And when we come back we won’t have our our regular segments today because we’re going to talk about Dinnerland. What is Dinnerland? What happened with Dinnerland? And then we’ll have some interviews to follow with some of the people that made Dinnerland possible yeah so stick around we’ll be right back see you

Autumn: soon

Justin: All right. Welcome back everybody. Welcome back on them.

So, all right, so now we’re going to talk about Dinnerland. And I think for this, maybe this, this conversation is going to be about it. We’re going to have some interviews. It’s going to be mostly spoiler free, but then next week, or maybe the week after we’re actually going to. We’re going to translate dinner, land into a podcast . Yeah. Because we have the recordings Josh is going to send some music samples and then we can just read stage directions. Yeah. Maybe present the menu, just so for the people who will never be able to make it to dessert Dinnerland because of the location or whatever. Right. That they can still experience kind of like what we did, you know, for Dinnerland. But yet we are going to be doing this again in [00:27:00] 2024 in the spring of 2024. So, yeah. Yeah, you can check out the Instagram, shoot me a DM. If you want to get on the interest list. Anyone who’s who gets on the interest list will be able to buy a discounted ticket. But yeah, basically what is Dinnerland? It is a pop-up dinner. And held in conjunction with Foster’s feasts. So foster Feast’s is run by Dave foster. He is a new Haven Chef he’s, he’s had a restaurant in new Haven. He’s been he’s on the news channel. You know, cooking segments all the time. Yeah. Channel 8 thank you. He’s he’s like, and he’s our friend. He actually married us. Yeah. So so Dave is the chef. And so it is a fine dining experience. We had eight courses this time. Eight course Danny experience. And it’s tied to a narrative, a story, a story that we tried to kind of tie to reality in a way. Yeah. But a fantastical story. About I don’t even know how much, I guess let’s just say at this point, It is related to Disney.

Autumn: And like the takeoff of. [00:28:00] Disneyland.

Justin: Yeah, exactly. Well, exactly. It’s basically. What inspired in this reality that we’ve created? What inspired Walt Disney? To create these rides and experiences. Occurred in this house.

Autumn: Or origin of inspiration

Justin: story.

There you go. There you go. So basically you come in and and you, you after the, we had a pre-show and everything, we had a pre-show. Video. Greeting a cocktail party lounge. VIP lounge. Exactly. And then you, you jump into the story through audio recordings that were found in our basement from the previous homeowner. Yeah. A story about how he met Walt Disney. I’m going to say it, how he met Walt Disney and inspired him to create his world. Right. So, so we basically went back and forth between those two rooms. The B story room. And the dining room. And one of the reasons why we went back and forth is because the dining room, every time changed. Right. And that was your job.

Autumn: [00:29:00] I changed. Set a state of things. Basically design person.

Justin: We basically had a set for each dinner themed to that attraction. Correct. So when you, after you heard the story that inspired the attraction. You went into dinner and ate inside the attraction, right? This was eight courses, eight courses, four different attractions.

Autumn: Four different attractions. Can I talk about. Yeah, wherever you want to talk about. Peter pan. It was the first. Attraction that was themed. With the food. We then moved into jungle cruise, which was, should we go into

Justin: detail? Some detail about what the plates were and how it was related to the story. Maybe just some fun things.

Autumn: Maybe I’ll go through I’ll. I’ll share what the rides were and then we could talk cause you have.

Justin: And I’ll talk about the food. So for Peter pan, you think of the volcano in, in the, you know, skull rock, we lit some cheese on fire. That’s pretty cool. Dave did a cheese flambe there. Very cool.

Autumn: All right. What was the next one? The next one [00:30:00] was jungle cruise, which was my favorite. And I do think it was everybody’s favorite theme of the

Justin: evening. Yeah. I think it was the most visually stunning one. Yeah. So we basically. We, I made a giant piece of wood. He did.

I’ll make a carousel of pictures for Dinnerland to go along with this episode. Check it out. At Easy, Diz It on our Instagram account. But yeah, we basically made a board and we put the salad in little boats. And each boat was labeled.

Autumn: The names of the real boats for jungle cruise that I used a wood burner and I would burn all the names. And so we went, we did a lot of.

Justin: May little science, basically for each one. And each sign, like you said, had the name, but those signs were made from Popsicle sticks. We didn’t just put Popsicle sticks on boats. No, no, no. We cut them down and we warrant the edges. Yeah. Here’s the file on each one of these 12 signs. Before wood-burning the names into it. So like just the signs on these boats, tow [00:31:00] together between autumn and myself, at least two and a half hours.

Autumn: Science. We didn’t make the boats. We did buy like bamboo

Justin: boats. Yes. But besides for the boats. We

had

Autumn: salad that went in there and those went on this beautiful hand-carved for it.

Justin: Yeah. And weathered board, I would say. And I use power tools to do it. So.

I hand oiled it. You did. But yeah, with like banana leaves down and skewers meat skewers with the Spears pointed inwards towards the boat. Right. Kind of a thematic old jungle cruise.

Autumn: Reference their beautiful leaves with some white lights around. So we raised the board, the board that the meat skew is run in. The salads was raised in it with beautiful white light under it. Yeah.

Justin: Look beautiful. You did a good job

Autumn: on that.

If you don’t know this about me, I love plants and we have a lot of things. We did was I moved all of the plants into the guestroom. Yeah. There’s a lot of plants. A lot of plants. We’re just out there

Justin: at [00:32:00] 20 plants, 20 about 20 plants. So. So in this mad scramble, because while everyone’s in the story room, Kind of chatting. Autumn’s changing the set and I helped with this too, but then I had a technical difficulty that I had to work over to. She didn’t have a ton of men really. So you moved like 20 plants into this room and people when they got in there, like where did all these plants come

Autumn: from? The house is empty. Void of plants. And and so then we we could put some photos too of this, but we, but we put all the plants they’ve got Tom ones actually have some tropical plants. All around the table. We’re just surrounded. And so when people came in, that was like the one room and it was like,

You know, Just with the light and the detail and the plants.

Justin: And each one of these, they had like, you know projection and audio. So we put like a white scrim on the picture. Windows are those picture windows? It’s a picture window. And then projected from the outside like scenery to kind of accompany the right [00:33:00] music with yeah. With music and audio. All right. So after a jungle cruise, what was that? We

Autumn: had Haunted Mansion that was a fun one, which is also good. And I, this was, this is probably my second favorite theming. So here we had a black tablecloth. We had like a Victorian vase with old kind of devil inference in. Yep. I had a wooden mortar and pestle. Like three or four dried, like dead, dead hibiscus leaves. And then one live one.

Justin: He made it look like she was mixing poison

Autumn: or something.

Yeah. And then I, I, we have a beautiful hand carved wooden box and inside that was a ring with. I’m a wedding. Yeah. Something that you’d collaborate. And and then we had some old. Oh, old Victorian looking like plant stands. Now all the plants are back out of the room. There’s no plants. And we had like dusty books that we stacked on that with some old lanterns. And then we had both an old mansion and a graveyard on the projection. Right with haunted mansion music.

Justin: You know, the lighting, the [00:34:00] colored lighting too. So the food here. So yeah, because some of the names of the first dish was a for haunted mansion is Gracie’s last meal. So it was diversity scallops. And Royal trumpet mushrooms and a cranberry citrus Cooley. So like a red smear kind of looked a little deadly.

Autumn: Pleading for this was very

Justin: cool. Yeah, that was Gracie’s last meal. Well, if you, if you know, you know, if you. You know, you know, and then the other one here was the grave diggers dinner, which was lamb chops with purple potatoes. Some smoked oyster mushrooms. Real fun, like earthy looking dish.

Autumn: Yeah. Not everything. Natural colors. And then last.

Justin: Was space, mountain, which is supposed to be like the the culmination, right? The thrilling end in terms of like dinners, correct dinner plates. Correct. So the person in charge of the special effects on this one. Kind of dropped the ball. Test. It was me. It was me. And [00:35:00] it’s funny. Cause I rehearsed this like 10 times. It was a very specific timing thing that had to happen. And I dropped the ball on it, but

Autumn: it’s still was quite stuffy at school and people know, knew that it happened. It just. It didn’t have the timing that you want.

Justin: Exactly the idea here being I’ll talk. Nobody knew that it wasn’t

Autumn: right.

Justin: We just knew. Chief dishes during space mountain, right? There was the watermelon salad. The let’s call it the afterburner watermelon salad. Cause it’s grilled watermelon. And the last dish is. Called in space. No one can hear you ice cream. That’s a joke.

Which is really tasty dish of like a vanilla ice cream and sherbet with a Tang dusted rim on like the champagne glass. It was served in the shortbread cracker in that cookie in there. Anyway, what was supposed to happen, right? Was that.

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Justin: They still got the music. It just wasn’t in the right order. But next time it will be.

Autumn: It was still cool.

It’s still happened. No. And again, nobody, nobody knew.

Justin: But it was like the closest thing to a ride that we had the night. And like in preparation, I was giving everybody rides. Like I was like, okay, sit at the table, watch this. And there was so excited because it was everyone loved it. They’re like, yeah, let’s do it again. But they’d have the dinner. I was just like, I couldn’t find the button.

Autumn: And he was making like alcoholic and non-alcoholic beverages and remembering who was what? Yeah. So maybe that was it.

Justin: I was tired. Yeah. It was tired. But so yeah, that was the evening. And I got to say the story is definitely bull. We’ll have that for you for you next time. Hopefully. I talk too much about that. Yeah. And we’ll give stage directions. We’ll talk more about the meals and what you saw. Hopefully be able to bring the listener here to the podcast. Right. To Dinnerland. That’s what I’d like to do. Bring you to Dinnerland. You won’t be able to taste the food, but we can [00:37:00] describe it a little bit. And

Autumn: if you are listening Justin did send out in your interested in interest to begin to look at dates for the spring. Yeah. So maybe you could include that. I’ll put it back. And some people would be able to come. If we know the data at a time,

Justin: I put the link in my Instagram story, but that only stays up for so long. But if you do, you can go to Instagram and look at the Dinnerland highlight, and you can see the full story. You can see all the, the the prologue. Basically, we didn’t even talk about the prologue. The videos that we made in the basement. You did in

Autumn: the beginning. I didn’t talk about the story. Yeah. You talked about this.

Justin: Briefly. I just said, we found these recordings. And the biggest one, you go go to Instagram. We’re not

Autumn: explaining.

Justin: Yeah, check it out. See. You go. Our first highlight it’s called Dinnerland. And if you just watch it right from there, you can see all the stories. And

Autumn: that is the that’s the before story to coming to. Yes. Do you want to watch that?

Justin: Dinnerland prologue. And that was fun just because that made a lot of people upset. We, I got a lot of people in my DNS. A lot of people on YouTube [00:38:00] just flaming me like very mad because it was like a part one part, two part three. Oh, my God. What did we find kind of thing? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Drove people nuts. So definitely check that out. Yeah. And then the last story in that highlight there is a link where you can sign up for interest for Dinnerland 2020. Yeah. Alright. Awesome. So. Dinnerland. Yeah. When we come back, we’re going to take a quick break. When we come back I’m going to ask you some questions about Dinnerland, and then we have some interviews with some other people that were involved coming up to some insight

Autumn: or some of our Dinnerland crew, some

Justin: of

the Dinnerland. Cast members, should we, you know, know what did we say? Story guides and I say, you said that with story guides. Okay. So we’ll hear from story land, dinner guide story people coming up soon. Oh we’ll be right back

All

Justin: right. So we’re going to interview some people later, but I figured let’s start by let’s interview each other. All right, you want to go first? Sure. Alright. Interview [00:39:00] me. Oh, I am. That’s what you mean by, I just want to let you know, during this interview. I will be extremely hostile and refuse to answer any questions.

Autumn: Is it going to be one of those.

Justin: Sean Penn kind of thing. Yeah. Okay.

Autumn: All right. Ooh.

Justin: Why would you ask me a question like that?

Autumn: All right. So I’m going to tiptoe into this. Yeah. Be careful. I’m going to tiptoe this question. So. Dinnerland you described it. The listeners heard it. It was a very immersive, fine dining. And inter kits really theater. Like we put on a show, this reminded me of me in high school and college putting on being a part of productions. So what made you come up with this idea? We did this.

Justin: Okay, so I can send, yeah, I can’t say that I came up with the idea because I definitely did not come up with this idea. But I did come up. I did want to have,, initially I just wanted to have like a Disney theme, dinner party, Dave, where like the dishes [00:40:00] would be themed after rods. That was my only goal. And then, you know what happened? The, we didn’t get a chance to talk about this because we haven’t had a podcast episode since May 1st. But something way more cataclysmic to me than I thought would be was the galactic star cruiser. Was canceled. And a and or ended, right. And then tickets sold out as soon as they went on sale. Yeah. So I had zero chance of getting on the galactic star cruiser. And I was like numb for like five minutes.

Autumn: This really, you guys can’t see this, but his eyes are a little watery. If he talks about it.

Justin: And then I watched Tom coreless, who literally cried on YouTube, but when he was really sad boy about this, I felt a little better. I wasn’t that, but hurt. But it was like, I was really looking forward to experiencing that. I was really looking forward to experiencing that. And now I was not going to be able to experience that. And that was so butt hurt and there was, it was a hopeless feeling like there’s nothing I can do about that. This is gone and is no longer an [00:41:00] option. And. We’ll end, but that’s like, well, you know what, you’re going to wallow or are you going to do something? And what else can we do? And we’ve talked about this in the past. What else can we do that is like immersive. Character based stuff, you know, there’s Dungeons and dragons games is Renaissance Faires and stuff like that. So that got me thinking about the dinner again. And I said, you know what? This can’t just be a Disney theme dinner. This needs to be a Disney dinner. That’s driven by a story. And to some degree. And I think with this iteration, maybe we didn’t do it as much as our long-term goal is. I want to pull people into the story. And make that part of the experience. So. So to answer your question. Yeah to finish. How did I think of this? I didn’t, I didn’t. That’s what spurred it. And then I called up our buddy, Ian, which we’ll talk to you later. And, talk to you and talk to my brother, Josh, to kind of put this together. Like what could this actually be?

Autumn: Yeah. So you don’t, you obviously the idea of some kind of theme dinner. Is not [00:42:00] something that Justin looks invented. We. We know this has been around, but. But the idea in the story, in which Dinnerland stems from yeah. It is, you know, is original to you and it, and it seems like. Really pushed and motivated. This idea was this loss. And we were just earlier talking about like, Pain right. Like haunted mansion. But, right. So there was this real loss that I’m hearing that you had. That’s that.

Justin: I said, boy. Disney nerd loss.

Autumn: Sad boy. Fueled this. This beautiful story. And what I’ll say is that’s not dissimilar from this story in the prologue, which you all should go and watch the videos of, , pertaining to how waltz got his ideas. There was a little bit of loss and pain and yeah.

Then ideas formed yeah. Yeah. From. Thank you for, for being vulnerable and sharing. Sure.

Justin: Sure. Absolutely. Absolutely. You another question. Well, it’s my thing. It’s my turn [00:43:00] now. Yeah, that’s my turn. , so I like interviewing you, we’re interviewing each other. So now.

And I’ll be Barbara Walters. All

Autumn: right. I’m an open book.

Justin: So when I first said to you. I want to do. A, I want to do a story-based fine dining experience with special effects with live music. , with eight courses with three different cocktails.

Autumn: Like when you first brought me the idea. You have all that

Justin: detail. Okay. If you can remember, then that’s a good point. I do because it kind of like evolved in snowballed. When I first came to you and said, I want to do a Disney dinner. Maybe that’s how I said

Autumn: it. I thought that was great. Yeah. I thought, I thought. Oh, my gosh. This is the space to do this. And I think I just latched on like, knowing your. Creativity. I knew that it was going to become exactly as great as it was though. I didn’t have the details of it. And I just thought that would be just a great way to [00:44:00] connect with other Disney folks. And that’s what brings you joy. So, Hmm. Yeah, no, I, I thought it was great yet at that first point, it was like a themed dinner and we talked a little bit about like how we would have people come into like this, the, you know what I mean? That there would be some kind of. Entrance beginning, prologue. But no, I thought it was a great idea. And then I do remember. As you were going online. I think particularly with the projections at first, I was like,

I don’t know if, well, I appreciate this. I just don’t know like how, and at that point too, we didn’t have as many. The story guides that whereas involved. So I work on board with the projections. Yeah, I loved thinking it was wasn’t the idea. I was just like, I just, I, this is great. Definitely. But I don’t think we can do it. And I was wrong. I mean, we did get more story guides involved, which you definitely needed. ,

But no, I love the idea and I’m just, I’m now so happy and was so fueled like the night [00:45:00] of though there was like a lot of nerves. Yeah. , just to see how immersed and excited people were. And we did all the things that you. Yeah. Th there was every two weeks, but like every. Every grand idea Justin had and Ian had, , we made happen. We

Justin: pulled off except for that last well times. Effect on space, mountain. It was. But next time we will. Yeah, it doesn’t smash it. Yeah.

Autumn: So I love the, I love the idea. Yeah.

Justin: All right. So were there any times where you’re like, Justin, this is ridiculous.

Autumn: Well, so this, if I can share this. Yeah. I can out just in a little bit. Yeah, I think Justin himself thought this was more ridiculous than anybody else thought. So, so.

Which is funny because it was his idea. So I think several times throughout the process, I think Justin. Doubted this. And oh, I think it was actually going to happen, whereas like me and everybody else, we were like, oh no, no, no, this is, this is.

Justin: Ready to [00:46:00] cancel this. Half hour before people showed up. Yeah. Like we were trying to do a dress rehearsal and things just weren’t coming together. Like I had to keep changing something or someone just kept leaving the room. And I was like, you know what? Let’s just cancel this. In my head, you know,

Autumn: So I think like, as grandiose as these ideas were and all this coming, I just, and I don’t think, I never really thought until like maybe the day before. , that this is really happening.

And so, so I think that was part, I think now that we’ve done it too, I think there are like positive changes we can make in the planning. But I think the only one that liked doubted that like this is actually going to happen. This is just going to end up being like great, cool ideas on paper. Actually Justin.

Justin: Fair enough.

All right. You got a question from me.

Autumn: , I can do it.

So, you know, day of. How were you feeling you? We had spent months now. Thinking and talking. Yeah. You had had people’s money at this [00:47:00] point? Yup. , We had staged the house. Yep. You know, how are you feeling? I felt like

Justin: their head. So there was like a never ending list of things that needed to get done. Like, and I, and I, and an organization is not. Like I know myself, right. And I have to have lists for something like this, and I’ve never done something this big. We’re in G there’s just so many different things that had to come together. Between special effects being produced, edited the technology to. To project the special effects, whether it’s the projector and the dining room or the story and the story room. , the automations, the lighting automations that needed to get set up, the food things, the drink things, , the pre-show VIP lounge things. , the gift bags at the end. Yeah, all these items. Literally hundreds there’s well, over a hundred items. I had to check off these giant pieces of paper with huge lists on them. And I did more than one of those pieces of paper. So, if you ask the question, how did that [00:48:00] feel? It was overwhelmed and this idea that this was impossible. That I was not going to get everything checked off that I needed to get checked off. Before the show started. , but. We did. I think there’s only a couple of things that we said, you know what? We’re not doing that this time. Well, and they

Autumn: don’t. I think those are items on the list. I think those are things that came up like bubbles

Justin: right there.

Autumn: I don’t think that’s where ever I wanted me now.

Justin: I think like more refined S like backstories for the, for the story guides for the dream characters. Yeah.

Autumn: Stuff like that. More like the, I think like a week away. And

Justin: it was like, that’s the thing, like throughout this entire process, there were always new things. What if we did this? What if we did that? And sometimes it’s like, shoot, that’s a really good idea. And we have to like, get that in here. That’s going to make this experience. That’s going to be one of those things. So as soon as you check one thing off the list, five other things come up, or sometimes you look at something on the list and you realize that that’s like nine things. Right. And

Autumn: I [00:49:00] also involves other people. So it’s not like there’s a hundred things and I can just go do these things I need to like have the time and space. So like, Audio recording. And see if this is even possible. For this person

Justin: to do. I got to get this audio recorded. Then I get to edit the audio. Then I got to send this audio to the person who’s doing the music, Josh, So, yeah, it was a lot, but I will say as soon as the party started, as soon as I put on my blazer and my hat. I was good. Every like doubt in my mind was evaporated. Every bit of there was no like anxiety, but stress, you know, I wasn’t afraid of anything. I just was well aware of how much crap had to get done. So that was stressful. But as soon as the party started, And I said, okay. And Justin, now you have to pretend to be a relaxed. Coast.

Autumn: Yeah. I go, I was in it. You have to accept what it is.

Justin: I had a beer and I was like, let’s go. We’re.

Autumn: Let’s do this. And you did a stage thing, which like Justin was not like I danced and have done this. So, but I feel like this was your first like [00:50:00] theatrical thing. Eh,

Justin: It’s the electrical for sure. Yeah, but it’s funny though, because, because the character I was playing was myself. I kind of just went into presenter mode. I went into my PMT, like instructor class mode just made self-deprecating jokes when I needed to, you know, made funny observations when I needed to. And I think that part of it went well. Yeah. I

Autumn: think that’s a good role for you to play.

Justin: Play myself. That’s how I was feeling. That’s.

Autumn: Now.

I’m curious about some of the unexpected things, as I’m sure some of our listeners are. Can you share anything that was. More easy than you expected and maybe any part of the process that was harder than you had expected.

Justin: I’ll definitely say the, like, just being running. Like being the MC talking to people was easier than I thought it was going to be. , interesting. Yeah. I forgot that I can do that. You know, it was in a different setting and I’ve never done it in this setting before. But like when I’m in [00:51:00] charge and I have like a script is really easy. No. I can do that. I’m well-practiced in that area now. , so that was easier than I maybe anticipated at being okay. , what was harder?

Autumn: It was interesting because I, and I think maybe because I had to be. That wasn’t my only role. Yeah. It would normally socially, that kind of thing is fine for me. I was much more anxious than I

Justin: am. He flip-flopped. Because you’re great in social free form. Social environments where I, I flounder.

Autumn: Yeah. And I did it, but I just remember, like, there are times talking and I’m like, oh my gosh, what do we say? Like, oh, I know I need to bring this person to this person. I would do it. But it just, I I’ve never had to think so much about my social interactions.

I don’t think about them. They just. You know what I mean? Does that make sense? That’s weird. And so, because, because, and it was like, okay, at 6 45, I gotta go do this. I got into the, you know, because I was not fluidly in the story. I think the way you kind of ended, ended up being more. So I had, I was looking out [00:52:00] for so many other things. That part was harder. Then I had anticipated it being internally. That’s

Justin: interesting. We flip-flopped. Yeah. So, so that was the easiest, I would say. The hardest thing. It wouldn’t be the day of, but it was coming up to the day of, because in this. And it’s throughout the whole process. This is, and I knew this would be a challenge because this is just a challenge for me. , so I guess it wasn’t really unexpected, but it, the collaboration, I talk a bit game. And I think everyone does. I’m a great collaborator. I never say I’m a great collaborator because I’m not, I’m a terrible collaborator, but I want to collaborate because I see the value. You’re not great. I see the value in everyone else’s opinion. Yes. In the, like on paper in the longterm, in the moment, like when someone gives me an idea, It’s like the part of my brain that’s is like, that’s a bad idea. Don’t do that. So like I’ve throughout this entire process, constantly have to argue with myself, telling myself to stop it. Listen. Listen to what they’re saying. And it’s really hard for me to do. And when I did learn something [00:53:00] that it’s much easier for me to do when there’s multiple people. So the discussions between you. Myself and Ian were really good. Or when it was me, Ian and Josh, those were the best discussions because having a third person. Like it helps me, like for whatever reason, hearing it from two people is better than hearing it from one person. And I’m like, okay, this is reality. There’s another person that agrees with them. Let’s go with it. And it gives me a little bit more space in my brain to accept other people’s input. , and if anything, I would say like, there’s definitely, I could have done better in that area. And I hope to do better in that area, in the future is just, you know, really listening to other people’s ideas, trying to understand why they think it’s a good idea and trying to put myself in the shoes.

So. Two, maybe. Open myself to the possibility. , just the possibility maybe, perhaps someone has a good idea. That isn’t me.

Autumn: Yeah. Well, it’s funny because I thought you did a great, like watching you collaborate with other people. That [00:54:00] was, I thought you did a great job. And I remember in my hiring even like how much you even allowed to be handed off to other people in the end compared to the beginning. And it’s like really impressed, because that is hard. That is hard for you. Yeah. You know, and there are times you are like, yeah, no, that’s great. You want, like, you were accepting help. I ended up coming. As you were really like, yeah. This would be really, I, you want to do this and I need you to do this, so thank you. Yeah. And that’s what you need when you do that kind of thing. So I think.

Justin: I was lucky to have a team of people that were just smart, adaptive thinking. People like everyone was having good ideas. If I could just let them sit, if I could just be like, just do that. Less work just, yeah. Exactly. And I think that the ed and that became more important towards the end. We’re really, it was, for me, it was about making sure everything on the list was done. And I couldn’t do the things, everything on the list by myself. Right. So I really needed delegation became more important [00:55:00] and trusting people to do it independently became really important. and I was just lucky to have just such talented people to help me out.

Autumn: It was, and it was a, it was a ball that was a ball. Like I like before the end, just exhausted as I was, was like, when are we doing it again? And then it just brought me back to all the other. Production things I had done too. And Yeah, it was great time. Everyone just really had a great time. I think that was at the end, but it was so pant was like, oh my gosh. I don’t need to ask. I didn’t have any doubts. Like it was like all the guests.

Justin: And I think everyone that ran the event, all the story guides had an excellent time. Dave. Had a blast. Yeah. I mean, the kitchen was wore out. They went hard. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah, they were definitely wore out, but I think they were they had fun too, you know? I don’t think often Dave gets to switch hats during a dinner parties. So you got to do some lines. You got to do some characters stuff. Yeah, it was great. That’s great.

Autumn: So we’re excited, basically the net. I think that what were the. The question I had was like, [00:56:00] oh my goodness. So what is the afterwords going to look like? And we had some immediate debrief. And some debrief within the next 48 hours. It’s still like close enough to remember, but also sometimes it could be good to have space because other things will come to you when you have some space from the event. And we wrote stuff down. We sent out. A survey, which was cool and they think it was like unanimously mostly everyone.

Everyone was very. Excited and on board and generating ideas. We got some great ideas. Yeah. Yeah. I had to look through those individually. I do not yet.

Justin: All right. So that’s I think that’s all we have to say on this at the moment, but yeah, stick around when we come back from the break, we’re going to hear from Josh, who was the music. But a lot of music. And from Ian, who was the storyteller, he was the writer for the, for the event.

Autumn: Yeah. So stay tuned.

Justin: All right, I’m sitting here with my brother Josh. Josh, hello. Hello. Josh and I think either project more or be closer.

Josh: [00:57:00] Let’s test it. One, two, three. There we go. Sibilants. Me, me, my, mo, moo. Moo, moo. My mom made, I’m not finished. My mom made me mash my M& Ms. Okay, I’m done.

Justin: All right, so we are the day after.

This is day after Dinnerland. You were part of the creative team. You were part of the performance team at Dinnerland. I think I approached you about this, what, like two months ago was it? Three months ago?

Josh: Maybe late. Maybe late May. Late May. And you’re like, hey, let’s do this. I don’t know. I just saved the day.

End of June. Oh, you’re

Justin: right. Okay, let’s do this in three weeks. You’re right. It was in May. Okay, and then we had the realizations. You work in a school too, right? Yeah, you work at a school. I work at a school. The writer, Ian, works in a school. So we’re all like, oh, it’s the busiest time of year. Guys, can we do this in three weeks?

And we decided, no, let’s push it back to August. Yeah. Yeah.

Josh: Also like, It was it probably [00:58:00] benefited from the extra time baking. Oh my gosh.

Justin: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely Absolutely, I couldn’t have done like nothing would have gotten done in three weeks Anyway, like it wouldn’t have and like honestly and it comes in the amount of time I thought of cancelling this so many times, like, when we did that final dress rehearsal before we started, I don’t know if you saw it in my eyes, but I was like, is it too late to cancel?

Like, an hour before guests got here, I was too, yeah,

Josh: I was thinking like, maybe we could cancel. I think the more important question is, is it too late to cancel now? Now that it’s over,

Justin: maybe we should cancel think we should try?

Josh: Yeah, I think we should probably cancel the whole thing. Let’s give them their money back.

No, no, no, no, it’s just, it’s been cancelled from our hearts. No, I’m just, no.

Justin: No, it ended up going really well, it did. It was, it was good, but it was, getting it all together was, you got, you got, it was tough, it was stressful. I had many, many task lists and you got here early the day of and helped out a ton.

And it’s the thing, you look back at these things and like, what would I have done if Josh didn’t come and do these things? You got there the night [00:59:00] before, actually. I don’t know what I, I don’t think we,

Josh: it would have gone exactly the same way except you wouldn’t have had a man child following you around saying, what should I do next?

Justin: He did so many things.

Josh: What should I do next? Am I doing this right?

Justin: So what was your, so let’s talk about that. Aside from like helping get it off the ground and set everything up you were music. You did music. So let’s first, like, what’s your relationship with music? Why did you do the music for this?

Josh: I’m going to not take the bait for the opportunity to be to be self deprecating. Okay. And, and, and just say I did the music because I do music. Ah, yes. And you’re like, you probably thought. That, since I do music, that I could do music. Huh. I asked the question, why am I doing this? You did, you did. I did, and so I’m assuming you’re qualified to answer that question more than I am.

Yeah. But I am a music doer.

Justin: Yes, you are a music doer, but you are, [01:00:00] like, I would say, like, so in terms, like, if you think, like, Disney music, I wouldn’t say you’re, like, you, you, we wouldn’t find you, though you could do it, but we wouldn’t necessarily find you in the pit at, like, a Disney Dance show or

Josh: something like that.

You know, I definitely have done the high school musicals. I’ve done Beauty and the Beast and Cinderella.

Justin: That’s not your passion, right?

Josh: I like a musical challenge. I definitely am not the person that knows a million songs, but I am the person that can play a sound that you think of. If that makes sense.

Justin: So, what Joshua did was he played, I’d say, the soundscapes for when the story occurred. It’s soundscapes for characterization?

Josh: Yeah, more like a film score than like like a piano bar. Hey, what’s the popular song you want to hear?

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Bum bum boo, doo dee, doo dee, doo dee, wah wah woo. Okay sorry, [01:01:00] music is not my forte. We weren’t able to get the recordings in time for this week’s episode. Stand by for the Dinnerland episode coming soon, to hear some of Joshua’s work.

Justin: it really brought me there, dude. That

Josh: brought me right back right away. I’m glad it did because I haven’t made it yet.

Oh, am I ruining, I broke kayfabe, pretend I didn’t say

Justin: that. So yeah, I mean you really set the mood when the story was going on and you… I think you, you provided the backdrop for people who had just met each other to converse when they weren’t eating. You know, they’re just kind of sitting in this room waiting for a story.

What else are they going to do? You like set the mood. We get a lot of positive feedback. Yeah. Okay. So, so when I, so when we said, I think the original ideas and that this project is, you know, it was definitely shifting and metamorphosizing. throughout the last three months. I think the original idea is wie should we have a piano?

We should get someone to play Disney tunes. [01:02:00] When my brother’s musician right, but I wouldn’t say you’re like a hey come play some tunes musician. You’re like, like we were saying before, like maybe, what you would you say to you, tend towards the abstract musically.

Josh: Definitely tend towards the abstract. I can do the hey play some tunes.

I’m a guitarist. Right. Hack my way through up piano people hear with their eyes a lot of the time, and they’ll, in other words, they’ll make judgments on what they want to hear based on what they want to see, like I see a piano, I can make, I can sound like I’m a jazz guitarist and I can play a thing that sounds like a piano is playing it, but because there’s a piano next to me in the room, they’re like, Oh man, somebody should go play that piano.

It’s like I’m all. I’m really just hearing what you’re saying right now on the guitar. Yeah. And listen, and you can hear it. But people like, yeah, some people maybe, and you know, maybe I taste with my fingers or something. I don’t know. Maybe [01:03:00] I have

Justin: limited… I do taste with my fingers. In autumn, when we ever, we go out to eat.

She finds it very disturbing. She asked me to stop. I look with my tongue. Yeah, well, I’m sticking my fingers in her mashed potatoes. And she’s like, don’t do that.

Josh: You don’t, you should ask first, always ask.

Justin: So I did, I noted it took me six minutes. for you to get you to admit you’re a jazz guitarist.

That’s what I was like. Oh, yes. I mean,

Josh: in the sense that I went to a school and I hold a diploma in playing the guitar in a jazz manner.

Justin: And so I really, I like the way, like, the, the tunes would have been cool, but I really like the way this developed. I really appreciate you , like, performed a four or five original works for this, and I think that set it over the top in terms of professionalism and just mood setting.

It was, it was dope. And as I’m sure the audience agrees, after listening to that sample, we just listened to it. Going back to like the concept of what Dinnerland was going to be, the first [01:04:00] time I explained it to you, did it, did you understand what I was talking about?

Josh: Did I correctly understand?

Justin: Yeah, like, did it make sense?

Josh: It made sense and I was wrong. Oh, okay, got it. I was like, he wants me to play Disney tunes while people eat food and then we do some kind of talky session. Got it. Like, mingling scenario. Yeah.

Justin: It’s been hard for me, the reason I ask that is because it’s been hard for me to like, explain to people what it is.

Like, is it a dinner? Party, is it a dinner show? And I just use the word experience, but I feel like that’s a cop out. Okay

Josh: The easiest way to explain it is it’s basically a murder mystery party with like no murders. Yes, and very little mystery

Justin: Yeah, it was mystery, but it was hard to grasp the mystery at some point.

It was, it was like very light on the mystery. And you know, I would say At one point there, there [01:05:00] was potentially going to be a murder, but we decided against that.

Josh: Is it because of something I played?

Justin: No, no, we weren’t going to murder you, no. Oh, good. One, there was an idea that maybe Walt murders the homeowner.

Accidentally, but…

Josh: Yeah, accidentally murder. Well, by definition, it wouldn’t be murder.

Justin: Yeah, yeah, that’s true. That’s why I said like murder adjacent. There was going to be… A homicide mystery element to it.

Josh: That’s, yeah. That’d go

Justin: over well. It was going to happen on the piano, actually. It was going to be an accidental piano murder.

Oh. We didn’t go that way, we didn’t go that way. Oh, so glad you didn’t. Like I said, there’s been, this project has had many ideas, and a lot of them were shut down by other members, and I think all for the better. Probably, yeah. I had some really not great ideas, and I had a lot of people

Josh: to say, like, yeah, you know, you’re good.

Was that, my, when I hear a sentence like that, the question that pops into my [01:06:00] mind will always be, ooh, what’s the worst idea? But it sounds like the Walt being a murderer is .

Justin: There were some cheesy choices I wanted to make with some of the graphics, like the, the ghost overlays, I had some ideas that probably wouldn’t have worked very well,

Josh: but but

Justin: yeah, yeah, that was the, it was, it was just good.

I think the collaboration was good. We had some meetings beforehand, so the music could talk to the story writer, Ian, and the Ian, and I’m hearing everybody and we had everybody in the room. We had. Dave the chef on some of those meetings too, and, and the sous chef attended, you know, we had the kitchen meetings too, and I just think there was a great collaboration between people, even people making suggestions outside of their area of specialty, is great.

I love that, because it’s a different angle you take, you know? Right, yeah. Yeah. So, for the next Dinnerland, or iteration, like, what do you, what do you envision for Dinnerland in the future?

Josh: Oh, I don’t know. I’m, I’m excited to find out, though. [01:07:00]

Justin: You brought how many pedals for your guitar? Oh, all of them.

Josh: I…

What was the

Justin: number? Nine or ten. Nine or ten. So would you say you need more than that for the next one?

Josh: Oh, I mean, by… The way I’m to understand sequels is that it needs to be bigger, louder, and faster.

Justin: So like 16, 17 effects pedals for your guitar? I’m thinking, yeah. Okay. Okay. That’s reasonable. All right.

All right. So so yeah, Josh, thanks once again, thank you for doing Dinnerland and thanks for doing this interview.

Josh: Oh, thank you. The pleasure is all mine.

Justin: All right. If you want to learn more about Josh, check out the show notes. I’m going to post some links, probably. Thanks again, Josh. Hey, thanks.

Welcome back, everybody. We have Ian here now. We’re gonna talk to Ian. He was a key member of the Dinnerland team. It would have, Dinnerland would have been very different if it weren’t for Ian.

Not only did Ian write the whole Dinnerland story, but he consulted and collaborated pretty much every step along the way from the conception of Dinnerland. [01:08:00] So, hey, Din, hey, hey, Dinnerland. Hey, Ian. How are you?

Ian: I’m good. How are you,

Justin?

Justin: Pretty good, pretty good. Thanks for coming on the podcast on the Easy Diz It podcast. This is pretty big for you.

You’re, you’re on the Easy Diz

Ian: Yeah. This is my first podcast.

Justin: It podcast. Wow. Wow. So just to go from like no podcast to I think like the 85th biggest Disney World podcast on the internet.

Ian: It’s a big deal.

Justin: That’s a huge jump. That’s a huge jump. So so yeah, let’s, let’s get right into it. Maybe we’ll start with, just tell me a bit about yourself, Ian. What, what is your relationship with Disney and the Disney parks?

Ian: So I grew up in Florida. I grew up about 45 minutes east of Disney world in a town called Coco, not too far from Cocoa beach. And my family would go yearly usually in the winter, for some reason. So I have fond memories of it, mostly from childhood. It’s been a long time since I’ve been

back a very long time, I don’t [01:09:00] even know, probably more than

15 years.

Justin: Oh, wow. We’re going to get you back to Disney

Ian: I know. But I think, like, for the purposes of this project, it was beneficial to have my memories be. Kind of distant.

Justin: . Yeah, I mean the the way Disney was presented in this project was a, I like calling it a project too. That sounds cool. Because I have been at a loss of words for what to call it when people ask me because it’s like, a project does

Ian: Yeah.

it seems appropriate.

Justin: It is a dreamy take on it. Right. And I think dreams and nostalgia, the, that, that being your, your lens here of, you know, at least a 15 year distance and time and also the experience primarily being, I guess of a, a kid.

Would that be accurate? It,

Ian: Yeah. Yeah.

It’s been a long time. So, but, so I think that but in general, I remember it fondly. I love the magic of it. I loved the specifically the rides that sort of [01:10:00] made you feel like you were outside when you were inside. And just the, the immersiveness of, of the rides and how they kind of tapped into every sense.

I feel like I’m an artist as well as a teacher and I feel like I’ve carried those those elements into the things that I try to do.

Justin: Yeah. I see that. So. , you know, we invited you over, Autumn and I invited you over to talk about this, what made you say yes to becoming part of the team? Why, why wasn’t this a no?

Ian: I think it was your, your, your barbecue

chicken.

Justin: Okay, yes.

Ian: You seduced me with your, with your grill skills. But I mean, but, but, but seriously, it was just I love to tell stories. I, I think I’ve as I’ve gotten older and gotten to know my, my brain, I’ve gotten to know my brain as a brain that just makes sense of almost everything through stories.

And I have aspirations to be, to be more active as a writer. So I thought it was an exciting idea because like I said earlier, we had I mean, I had these [01:11:00] connections with, with Disney as a child. And it was a great opportunity, I think, to to get some practice writing and to reflect on Disney and trying to kind of, I also think it was a good project because it had it wasn’t incredibly open ended.

It was, but at the same time it had certain limitations and certain guidelines that made it made it into a an interesting challenge. For me to sort of how, how do we make it so that it fits with your house and your home and with meals and so all of these variables I found interesting and challenging and stimulating

way.

Justin: Yeah. Yeah, it’s interesting that you brought up limitations, because we will get back to that. Before I do though, I want to say in terms of the story that you wrote, I can’t tell you how lucky I felt when I read that story, that I met you, and that you said yes, and that you agreed to do this.

Because honestly, and like like I welled up at certain points just reading this story. It was very… Emotional, fun story, [01:12:00] it had like laughs in it and it also had some things that, for me as like a Disney nerd, meant a lot, like the amount of research that you put into some of those things, it’s just, it was a beautiful story, it is a beautiful story, very well done, and I look forward to more people experiencing it, for sure. Now, you mentioned limitations, because my next question here is, tell me about Dreaming Big and what that means to you, because that was a recurring theme in just about all of our interactions,

tell me about that. Tell me about Dreaming Big, Ian.

Ian: As a creative person, I, that’s kind of my default is to start with the most unrealistic, but most exciting version of any project. And and I think, I mean, going back to my experience as a teacher and as a creative teacher, I think that I’ve learned that that remains a good place to start, but I’ve [01:13:00] gotten better at.

reckoning with reality and yeah. And I mean, in terms of cost and how big, I mean, is it like, well, in the, yeah, the limitations of the people and the money and the place and the time and I feel like, you know, going year after year, trying big projects in the classroom and recognizing that sometimes big dreams end with.

If they don’t get accomplished, it could be disappointing for a group and that compromises are only, they’re kind of secrets, they’re held within the behind the scenes and the creative group that nobody really realizes what the dream was, they just experienced what the, the experience was or what the project is.

Does that make sense? Yes.

Justin: yeah, but, so you’d say that’s just part, that’s your default as, as an educator and maybe as a person is to start off by dreaming big. That’s, that’s just part of who you are, that’s not like a, is there like a conscious, like, rationale behind [01:14:00] that for you? Like, why is it important to, to start with the hmm,

Ian: I mean, I think it goes, it goes back to, to maybe even experience, not, not that experiencing Disney at a young age is the only reason, but it probably is related in some way because I think that I’m also just like a sensory person. Like I, I, I feel alive when I have like lots of sensory, like varied and like big input.

So I like to be in immersive experiences. So I think it’s just sort of, to some extent, me trying to give an audience what I would want.

Justin: mm.

Ian: Does that make

sense?

Justin: yeah,

Ian: So yes, that’s just kind of where I’m, where I start. But then, but also I think what, like, over, over my creative life, I’ve had periods of of working in isolation and it’s much harder in isolation to to reckon with, with limitations [01:15:00] and to be realistic about things like deadlines and budgets and all that kind of stuff.

And so I think that one thing that I really appreciated about this project was that it was collaborative and it was also just sort of like collaborative in the context of like, the collaborators were people with jobs and families. So it’s like, you can’t, there are real limitations as to how much of yourself you can put into it.

And there are sort of, so there were times where I’d be distant from you and I didn’t know what was going on. And that time and space I think is like good because it kind of curbs obsessive tendencies that I tend to have as well. So I think and, and I also, so, and, and you being a sounding board, you know, I would say like, Oh, let’s just like do this.

And you would be pretty, you as a person with the home and with the technology and with the initial vision, I think. Could could check those things and say like, ah, that’s not gonna work, or, let’s try this, or,

Justin: So I did, I ask this question because I think this is what makes you such a valuable collaborator. And maybe yeah, [01:16:00] because I think there is a tendency, maybe it’s a human tendency, maybe it’s me, but I see things a way. And I expect things to be, and I think about things. They should continue being in that way, which is fine, maybe most of the time. But when it comes to a creative endeavor, it’s a box I’m putting myself in. So to have someone to say. All right, we need basically an illusion here. We need to create this illusion. My initial reaction is that’s not, how am I going to do that?

I can’t do that. We shouldn’t do that. But because the way you present it and you present the value, well, if we did do this, it would tie. It would tie in, you know, The Haunted Mansion, it would tie in this key element of The Haunted Mansion, and I can tie it to the story, and it would be valuable to the guest experience, this would make me excited if I were experiencing this, I’m hearing this from you, that not only motivates me, like, okay, I gotta think more about this, how we can make this happen but it, it just expands the possibility, it lets me, [01:17:00] like think, It helps me get out of my box, basically.

Having someone, like, be the dreamer. And I think we kind of developed this relationship where I almost felt like Roy Disney and you were Walt Disney. Where Walt would have, like, these outlandish crazy things he wanted to do and Roy would be the guy checking the bank account and being like, well, maybe we can, if we move this around, you know.

So, you know, I’m not making outlandish comparisons here or anything. I mean, we’re just Walt and Roy, basically. But…

Ian: No, but I think that, no, I think that is a probably historically a, a beneficial team.

Dynamic.

Justin: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it was fun too. It was fun. I felt like I grew during this experience. You know, this Disney dinner experience helped me grow as a person. And I appreciate you helping me along there.

Ian: Yeah, yeah,

me too.

Justin: So, talking about resources and, you know, limitations and how that, you know can be a creative force in some points, like when we’re limited by physics, [01:18:00] we have to get creative and that might change how we do things or how we tell a story.

If, though, resources were not an issue, if money, manpower, Well just say money and manpower were not an issue. You still have to obey the laws of physics. If those things were not an issue what might, what might be one thing that you add to, to the next dinner, land or future iterations of dinner?

Dinner land.

Ian: Oh geez.

Justin: I’m not putting you on the

Ian: Yeah, I mean, but if money isn’t money, it’s not an issue, then it’s, there’s no, there’s no limitation other than, yeah, physics. Yeah, but I mean, I think that well, I guess, how much am I allowed to talk about, like, the story and what happened on that

original night?

Justin: Yeah, you can talk pretty freely. This episode has a few spoilers. It’s not going to be a full spoiler episode, but we’ve, we’ve at this point discussed what the different rides were. We described some of the table settings and stuff like that. Not a ton of the special effects, but you can go ahead and get into it.

Ian: Yeah, I mean, if I’m, if, [01:19:00] and if there, if I’m thinking like super big, let’s take it out of your home because, I mean, I don’t know, because, I mean, it’s big, it’s it’s, I imagine that there were benefits and also challenges of like having it occupy the same place where like you live and as a family.

But, but I would never want to lose the like the feeling of of being in a domestic kitchen and in like a domestic living room.

Justin: And I think you did do a really good job of tying that into the story.

Ian: exactly.

Justin: was a reason in the story why we were in my house. I thought that was great. Yep.

Ian: So, so I mean, if, if, if there was no limitation, I would make it happen in a, a place that, that was a set like that, that was designed to look like, like a living room and even had a false exterior because on that night that it happened, I mean, the first night that we did it it rained and it thundered and it lightened and there was some thunder that was pretty magically timed with the story and it created this really Yeah.

magical feeling to kind of all be in [01:20:00] together while it was, it was raining. So to be able to simulate like weather in believable, realistic ways would be a cool thing to make the passageway between the living room and the dining room, even more sort of like a tunnel and, and dreamy like and for it to just be like kind of preserved and always set up because you wouldn’t have to like scramble to kind of transform your home every time.

And then just like to have something designed from scratch, it’s sort of like really thought about like the flow of people and the but then within the actual room where the story is being told, like, you know, I mean, there’s a million things that we could do in terms of making the, like the apparitions that occurred on the screen, like somehow actually occur in the room.

So have like projections sort of all over and, and light shifts and, And just, I mean, I don’t know, it’s like special effects that tied into the story. But like, I don’t know, just like a haunted house in a way, but just like a room that was filled with contraptions that and also, and the main thing too, is just [01:21:00] sort of have everything automated by a, some sort of big giant

brain.

Justin: Yeah. Because there are commercial systems that automate lighting and I was… It’s just in terms of resources. Yeah, we didn’t have access to, so everything we did was basically all of our automations were done with things that were designed for residential use really, and a couple apps,

Ian: Mm.

Justin: On our phones.

So yeah, we, we had a hodgepodge of technology for sure. It would be nice to have a single control point. That would be great.

Ian: It would be awesome also to, to, to really lean into the theatrical element of it and have like actual actors being a part of the experience would be, I think would be pretty

fun.

Justin: Yeah, and my mind went there too. And I think that’s what we’re going to end up doing, you know. I think, I think we are going to get some, some, some actors involved at some point, you know. Well, you know, that’s, in terms of resources, we have to move some things around and figure some things out. But I think it’s doable.

I think it’s doable.

Ian: Nice.

Justin: [01:22:00] Alright so yeah, I mean, do you have any final thoughts on Dinnerland? Or, or, final thoughts on anything that we’ve talked about?

Ian: yeah, I mean, I think kind of echoing some things that you said earlier, I think that I’m really grateful To have had this opportunity to collaborate and to dream and to make something. And I think that especially grateful given that I, you know, going back to this, something I said earlier that, you know, we are, we all have busy jobs and busy lives and, and families.

And, and I think me personally, as, as someone who sort of came to know myself in sort of creative artistic communities, collaborative communities, like it can be hard to to kind of. I don’t know, lose those communities because of other responsibilities and changes in life. So I’m glad that those opportunities are still available and I’m grateful for you for inviting me

in and seeing my

potential.

Justin: Is dinner Oh, definitely. Is Wait, so does Is Dinnerland an artistic community?

Ian: [01:23:00] Yeah. Why not?

Justin: Alright, cool. I like it.

Ian: I think so. I mean, we could even say, I mean, we could say creative. I mean, there was a, there was a team of people that were bringing their There are areas of expertise and interest and passions together into a collaborative project.

Justin: Like it. Creative community. Dinnerland. Love it. Alright. Well, Ian, thank you so much for being such a huge part of Dinnerland. Thank you for… Like I said earlier, it would not have been anything close to what it was without you, so thank you. And thanks for doing this interview too, and congratulations on being on the Easy Diz

Ian: Oh, yeah. Well, you’re welcome. And thank you.

Justin: Thanks everybody for listening today. I hope you enjoyed hearing about our dinner land project. If you are interested in learning more about dinner land, if you have some great ideas for dinner land, or you’d like to join us. For our next dinner land in the spring. Shoot me an email at [01:24:00] easydizitpodcast@gmail.com. I’ll get you on the interest list and that way you can get a discounted ticket if you choose to do so in March or April. And Hey, oh, if you’re going to Disney world. Disneyland. Disney cruise. Don’t forget. I am a travel agent and I specialize in theme park travel. So if you have some questions about universal or you have some questions about Disney send them my way. I happy to answer those questions. Whether you end up booking your travel with me or not. If you do end up booking your travel with me, boy. Boy are you in boy, are you in luck? I’ll tell you what so until next time. Easy Diz It.